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            prints as our point of departure, what difference does it make that
            we know the “author” of
            one print and not the other? (given that “authorship” is
            a somewhat vexed notion in regard to printmaking) b) Can we say that
            these prints represent the same ideas/ideals/notions/ presumptions
            about crowd violence? How would we unpack the differences in representation
            (the choice of perspective, for instance—the one telescoped,
            the other wide angle)? Are these differences the result of differences
            in the purpose of the prints (Prieur’s is part of a series, for instance).
            c) In regard to Wayne’s interests, does this kind of event ever appear
            on a medal or is the level of violence somehow incompatible with
            that kind of representation (in metal as opposed to on paper, more
            sculptural than pictorial, etc.) d) Is gender more of an issue when
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                      gender, class, and violence Joan B. Landes,  
                7-16-03, 2:50 PM | 
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                Date? Joan
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                        The two prints
                        differ significantly in how gender relations are represented.
                        In the anonymous print, the revolutionary crowd is mixed,
                        and at the center of the violent scene is an enthusiastically
                        gesturing woman. In addition to the observed aesthetic
                        distance achieved in Prieur’s image, it is also
                        noteworthy that he chooses to portray the revolutionary
                        crowd as singularly male in composition, while making
                        some reference to age differences among the men. Though
                        I am afraid my monitor image is not sufficiently sharp
                        to determine this definitively, it appears that both
                        groups of three in the foreground include youths. And,
                        from what I can detect, women are included among the
                        spectators peering out from the buildings surrounding
                        the square. If so, Prieur portrays these women only as
                        spectators, not central participants in the disturbing
                        episode. Structurally, they occupy a similar position
                        to the print’s own spectator: Interested but not
                        directly involved or implicated in the act of violence.
                        In the anonymous print, there is also a female spectator,
                        a considerably more respectable, sedate woman than her
                        gesturing counterpart. However, this very visible onlooker’s
                        proximity to the lamppost underscores two of the print’s
                        central motifs, the disturbing association between enthusiasm
                        and fanaticism, and between female enthusiasm and violence
                        or madness. In fact, we are provoked to ask whether
                        her dispassionate gaze might signal a sadistic pleasure
                        in the observation of violence, which not only implicates
                        her but also the print’s observers.
                        The enthusiastically gesturing woman occupies center
                          stage in the anonymous print. She is positioned between
                          Foulon’s severed corpse and his head, which is
                          raised aloft on a pike. Indeed, a quick glance suggests
                          that the woman’s outstretched hand is balancing
                          the pike. The barking dog in the foreground echoes
                          the woman’s wild enthusiasm. Her dress, gestures,
                          behavior and location underscore her place among the
                          common people. So, if both artists suggest a class
                          division between those directly at the scene and the
                          more respectable onlookers above, the anonymous printmaker
                          emphatically captures the ambivalence that arises when
                          women – and especially women of the popular classes – are
                          directly involved in politics.Thus, following Lynn’s
                          point that this print recaptures much of the ambivalence
                          suppressed by Rudé’s account of the crowd,
                          we need to go further and ask whose ambivalence is
                          being expressed? Perhaps the image that seems to be
                          a more direct, spontaneous, and immediate impression
                          of the event is just as heavily coded by gender and
                          class conventions as the image by Prieur. Consequently,
                          along with an appreciation of Lynn’s point about
                          George Rudé’s and Charles Tilly’s
                          revision of prevailing nineteenth- century depiction
                          of the crowd , a more complete interpretation of these
                          images requires an recognition of the full extent and
                          character of women’s participation in the revolutionary
                          crowd, as has been undertaken by Albert Soboul, Dominique
                          Godineau, Harriet Applewhite and Darline Gay Levy,
                          among others. Finally,
                          we might ask whether Prieur is trying to legitimate
                          the people’s role in
                          the Revolution in a manner not unlike Rudé and
                          perhaps also in response to eighteenth-century precursors
                          of Le Bon or Taine . If so, this places in a new light,
                          first, his effort to distance the viewer from a more
                          direct view of/confrontation with the crowd’s
                          actions, and second, his decision to excise any trace
                          of the crowd’s female members and to emphasize
                        its masculine character.                          
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